[2015] Sonir

  • Hi!
    I was the hungarian guy who visited the camp a few times and as others made me promise I plan to be in the camp next year.
    So far this is the best pic I have right now about my gear although some of you may seen it during the game, plus there is the armor which you probably didn't seen much and right now I don't have a really good picture about it.



    there are a few things I will change with the cloths, like I fucked up the lace holes, and didn't have proper laces, and will add a few blue stripes to the lower part of the hose, but that's the general idea.

    "Ever noticed when you see two groups who really hate each other, chances are good that they are wearing different kind of hats. Keep an eye on that, might be important"

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  • Hi Sonir! Welcome to our Forum.


    Nice clothes, I think they should do nicely. It would be a pleasure to have you in the Landsknecht Camp next year. I'm sure some more pictures would help, but what I can see already looks great and you should fit in nicely. :) A nicer sidearm or at least a cover for it would be great. But the clothes are very good.

    Bernhard "Die Makrele" Makrelowic, Landsknecht des Drakenhof 3

  • Hey dude,


    good to see you writing so soon after the DF.
    Just to refresh your memory: you fought in my Rotte and I made you dance for the girls. ;)


    Your clothes appear, as I already said on the fest, fine... but it's not (solely) on me to decide that... we have a new commitee which does so, I will come back to you to tell you our results. Well... kinda... hr hr...

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    Hi Sonir! Welcome to our Forum.


    Nice clothes, I think they should do nicely. It would be a pleasure to have you in the Landsknecht Camp next year. I'm sure some more pictures would help, but what I can see already looks great and you should fit in nicely. :) A nicer sidearm or at least a cover for it would be great. But the clothes are very good.


    I will change my sidearm for the next year to a katzbalger or a messer I'm pretty sure about it, with a proper sheat. I just brought the calimacil sword because it's VERY durable.


    also a few more pictures I've found, although none of them too great. As I said the whole thing has a lot of minor problems that fucks up the whole things and doesn't look as good as it could be.


    also, this picture was the inspiration but we changed a few things for one reason or another

    "Ever noticed when you see two groups who really hate each other, chances are good that they are wearing different kind of hats. Keep an eye on that, might be important"

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  • Good things come to those who wait: you're very welcome to join the Landsknechtlager next year. Sorry for the delay, our welcome-committee is just constituting itself.


    If you have further questions, suggestions or comments, feel free to open a thread in one of the Forums...


    Just a short description of our forums:


    1. Vorstellung - you already got it, it's for people introducing themselves to us
    2. Drachenfest Planung - everything organisational about the Landsknechtlager on the Drachenfest
    3. Der Landsknecht im LARP - everything about depicting a Landsknecht in LARP and about the historic Landsknechts and their adaptions in Warhammer etc.
    4. Rückblicke - reviews, photos and everything else about past Drachenfeste.
    5. Outtime - well, seen?


    If you need help you can ask almost every member here in the forum. Almost all of them speak and write quite sufficient English, although most of them pretend not to. ;)

  • meanwhile I started to work on my leather jerkin. Currently it's just sewn together it will need a little adjustment and then cutting out the decorative stuff.
    Is there anything I should watch out for in the patterns? Or specific patterns that only existed in specific regions/time?


    "Ever noticed when you see two groups who really hate each other, chances are good that they are wearing different kind of hats. Keep an eye on that, might be important"

  • a little more dicking around and one layer linseed oil later


    Also I fucked up the lower part of the back and probably did a few cuts too close to the edges in some places, or too close to each other. Time will tell.
    Anyway, it will get a few more layers of oil after it dries and then it's basically finished



    Welcome! I love your banner. I had a good laugh! :)


    Thanks, it started as a joke a few years ago and one day I just asked myself: Why not make it real?
    Sometimes I get great ideas like that. Mostly some-when around 4 am

    "Ever noticed when you see two groups who really hate each other, chances are good that they are wearing different kind of hats. Keep an eye on that, might be important"

  • no real patterns. I mean the base for the jerkin is pretty simple and the decoration I did it by hand on the fly.


    It really is just put together from three pieces of leather, sewn together at 4 points, the shoulders and the sides. The two front piece is similar and you can see their shape on the first picture, the back piece is pretty simple too, you can also see it on the pics.
    But I can put together some really simple pattern for it when I get home



    Also here it how it looks while I'm wearing it, although not with the landsknecht cloths



    "Ever noticed when you see two groups who really hate each other, chances are good that they are wearing different kind of hats. Keep an eye on that, might be important"

  • yesterday I was too tired but here are few important thing about the jerkins. (if anyone disagrees feel free to correct me)


    I made it out of three pieces as I said previously but you can make it out from more. Like attach a plus shoulder flap from a separate piece seen here: http://germanrenaissance.net/w…sknecht-with-his-Wife.jpg (As far as I know after 1540 the separate shoulder piece was a default for german civilian fashion in leather jerkins but that's civilian stuff not LK)
    Although you can make one with shoulder flaps with just three pieces. OR make the whole thing out of just one piece if you have a big enough leather. Here is a little help about the how to for making it from one piece
    http://germanrenaissance.net/d…leather-vest-ledergoller/


    About the sewing I did it with just simply sewing together the pieces... I don't know what is it called in english but it looks like something like this at the end http://highonglue.com/wp-conte…ue.com-step18-600x401.jpg
    which wasn't the most popular way because it will leave a lump where it folds but wasn't unheard of.
    You can do a cross sewing too if you want to, it was more popular back in the day as far as I know


    Another kind of important thing is the slashes and the folding out part. You can draw beforehand the cuts but do it with something that you can erase later. Also for the folding out you need to make it wet with a little water after you cut it then fold it out and apply pressure with something hard and smooth and drag it along the line you want it to remain the folding, then it will remain that way after it dried (which will be a few minutes usually) That's how you fold out the edge of the front pieces in the middle too.
    I basically did a lot of cuts too close to the edges and to each other so probably it will tear apart in a few places after greater use but then I will probably just sew it together (or make a new one)
    Also there is a little trick about the cutting part: if you punch a hole at the begining and the end of the cut with an awl it makes it easier to cut the right size and less it will tear later


    The leather I used is somewhere around 3 mm thick but according to the pictures and pieces in museums there were both thinner and thicker jerkins so use whatever you like (and IIRC there is at least one picture about a jerkin that's made out of textile instead of leather)


    ALSO A VERY IMPORTANT THING IF YOU WANT TO BE AS FASHIONABLE AS POSSIBLE!
    Again according to pictures some of these jerkins were painted. Here is an example:
    http://www.pinterest.com/pin/402157441699039594/


    Also there is a possibility that originally these things were for wearing it under armour as in a lot of pictures the flaps shaped like and go as low as the tassets, but that's just a guess. And another guess is that people back then get these in plain form without the cuttings and then they just cut it up however they wanted.


    That's all right now. If you have more question ask it, or if something is not clear

    "Ever noticed when you see two groups who really hate each other, chances are good that they are wearing different kind of hats. Keep an eye on that, might be important"

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